SnowCat DAO AMA
March 21st, 2022
Running Beast | TGH
Get ready for the AMA with SnowCat DAO
Welcome to TGH@PolyWantsACrackerFarm
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/)
Thank you!
Running Beast | TGH
I will be your host today, pleasure to meet you
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/)
I believe @WojakHorseman has also poked his head in
Running Beast | TGH
Hope you are all set with your cup of coffee ☕️
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/)
He wont be writing but he is here in spirit
Snowcat DAO (🐆,🐆)
🌐 Website: https://snowcat.dog
✈️ Twitter: https://twitter.com/PolyWantsAFarm
📢 Telegram:https://t.me/PolyWantsACracker_Farm
🎮 Discord: https://discord.gg/snowcat
🐆 Snowcat.dog is an exciting short-term financial game with unique incentives and rules! 🐆
🐶 Giveaway to wallets that staked in SnowdogDAO - 2 SCAT/wallet, limit 3000 wallets! 🐶
💰 Snowcat is a DAO that allows supply expansion for only 8 days 💰
💸 On day 9, 80% of the treasury besides SCAT-DAI LP will be used for buybacks 💸
⚒ Buybacks controlled by custom functions - admins have no treasury withdrawal ability ⚒
🎉 Buyback code battle tested by the team's first short-term DAO, MiniPanther DAO 🎉
💲$30,000 in tokens to give away this week! 💲
💵 New referral code! 3% Bonus! 💵
Running Beast | TGH
Let's get started with some introduction.
Please introduce yourself to the community?
Please tell us about your journey, experience and expertise in the Crypto field so far.
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/)
https://docs.snowcat.dog/
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/)
Hi! My name is Kurt
I've actually been here twice before haha
I've been following ETH and its tokens ever since TGH got started and i remember how integral it was to the history of defi groups
Gem Hunters is one of the oldest ICO groups
and of course we have been here multiple times before so it is a true honor to be back
we know that TGH doesn't schedule AMAs for just anyone and so we really appreciate it
We are on our 7thproject now
Running Beast | TGH
Welcome back Buddy 🙂
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/)
we had 4 yield farms, and now 3 DAOs
The link dump above contains most of the key info
but if you don't like to read
we also have videos
https://docs.snowcat.dog/basics/videos
Our DAOs have included minotaur money, minipanther, and now snowcat DAO
https://polywantsacrackerfarm.medium.com/the-game-theory-of-minipanther-42ad4104cdee
That is a Medium article on the game theory of minipanther but snowcat is structured almost the same
so the basic idea of Snowcat is that it is a short-term financial game
the DAO can only mint new tokens for 8 days
but during that 8 days, you get an incredibly high single staking APY
Running Beast | TGH
Let's talk in detail about the project 🙂
Please give us a brief introduction about your project and what are you guys trying to showcase? What is the story behind its origin? When did you start working on the project?
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/)
That's a great question
we take in bonds, meaning people can mint new SCAT tokens using the interface on the left side of our site
they get a discount for doing so and 3 days vesting
so the objective is to fill up a treasury. you have to put coins into the treasury in order to mint.
Then, on day 9, 80%of the treasury besides LP tokens is used for a series of massive buybacks
So that's what motivates people and provides the intrigue to hold until day 9
We have promised that 80% of the treasury besides LP tokens will be used for buybacks on day 9,so it sets that up as a goalpost
we believe that the short-term structuring can set up a situation where the token's price action will be dictated by that and not macro price action
like, for example, if BTC is going down a few percent, will you really sell a token that's having80% buybacks tomorrow?
we think now
To directly answer your question, the idea for this structure came from an organization called snowdog dao
Running Beast | TGH
That's awesome
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/)
that was a DAO structured the same way as snowcat in terms of rules
they said that they would do one massive buyback but they did so on the wrong LP
so essentially everyone got rugged for $40 million
That's not a good thing
We didn't want to allow the possibility that someone like me could just take the treasury money and run some exploit to steal it
so we programmed up some custom functions that now handle all buybacks
we have a docs page on that https://docs.snowcat.dog/special-purpose/massive-buybacks
and a liquidation test https://docs.snowcat.dog/security/liquidation-test
and we also ran the whole system in the wild once
with mini panther
so we now have pretty good proof that it works and actually empties the treasury
Running Beast | TGH
How is this project different from snowdog dao? Are they both related?
Why are you doing a giveaway for snowdog dao stakers?
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/)
the function that actually does the buybacks only takes a % as input
Running Beast | TGH
Okay 👍
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/)
so the operator triggers all buybacks manually
and there is no standard administrative treasury withdrawal function
therefore, once bonded tokens enter the treasury, or any tokens enter the treasury that match the bonds, the only way out is via the buyback functions
therefore, the difference from snowdog dao is that we do not allow for the rug vector to occur
of course,"unruggable" is a stretch because there are many things one could do with the standard DAO formula to overmint tokens etc.
But we have made it so that the buybacks must occur on the correct LP
Running Beast | TGH
Will buyers be indirect control for their funds
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/)
Well, this gets at the definition of bonding/minting
When you mint here: https://snowcat.dog/#/mints
you can get SCAT tokens using any of those payment tokens
at that point, there is 3 day vesting
the protocol unlocks the purchased tokens linearly for 3 days
so at that point, people are not in full control of their funds
however, once that vesting period is up, or if you buy from the market, there are no restrictions on buying or selling
there is now a pre-swap period when people cannot trade also
at this point people have only PSCAT which will never have liquidity
we have a swap to SCAT that opens 3-23 at 8pm gmt
at that point, people get control back
Running Beast | TGH
Community members mark the date and time
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/)
our presale is sold out
https://snowcat.dog/#/presale
and we have a full schedule of upcoming events here https://docs.snowcat.dog/basics/presale-info
3/22 9pm GMT: Liquidity added
3/23 8pm GMT: Swap from pSCAT (presale token) to SCAT (protocol token)
Send pSCAT to the contract at our Presale Page
3/25 8pm GMT: First reward epoch begins, bonding begins
3/26 0000 GMT :First rebase rewards drop
4/2 8pm GMT: Buyback date
so trading begins today
and the trading link is https://traderjoexyz.com/trade?inputCurrency=&outputCurrency=0xbE3e1F44d99edb10cf6378e5a3879BB533A67331#/
however, my advice is that the best time to buy is 3/23 at 8pm gmt because that is when presalers gain access to coins
anyway getting back to the snowdog DAO comparison
why would we care about this?
well
Snowdog DAO actually reached and captured the imagination of tons of people
people really liked the concept of snowdog dao, it seemed almost fantastical to people
Running Beast | TGH
Definitely people will be buying because of FOMO
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/)
the concept of massive buybacks is just so powerful in peoples minds
they visualize themselves being the one to cash out at the very top and getting all the money
or dueling it out with others for the money
it makes people experience mooning in their mind over and over again
it was almost crazy how many people were involved and how much were putting into snowdog
but everybody kinda already knew that the team was shit bags and the concept of a 100% buyback never made any sense to me
Running Beast | TGH
Yeah, that's the crazy part
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/)
In my opinion, the only reason anybody would ever promise a 100% buyback is to rug it
but still, people went along with snowdog
so we know that they were getting at a very powerful concept
and minipanther showed us that the concept is really powerful
we have run basically this whole system before with a few changes
on fantom
what is different this time?
well, first we will have a lot more liquidity
$720,000 in total starting liquidity
whereas minipanther had only 150k on spooky and 50k on dark knight
also the length is8 days not 14
we also added in antibot
meaning we heavily tax the first few seconds after a buyback or liquidity add
and finally referral code
https://snowcat.dog/#/referrals
Running Beast | TGH
That's a great move
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/)
so if you think that this whole scheme would sound fun to people, you can send them your link
and that gives an extra 3% when minting to the referrer and referee
but the concept is very simple
many people are involved in long-term investments too
but many people also like short term flips
and fun games
much of what drives people is the joy of harvesting... they like to see those big rewards coming in
and so our limitation on supply expansion to 8 days lets you experience that more intensely
because there is a promise of the time limit
our starting single staking apy is going to be 291 billion lol
291 billion %
that's 1% every 4hours
and that works out to 77% over 8 days
Running Beast | TGH
[ GIF ] :D
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/)
but you will actually get more
because we have an8% tax on selling that is redistributed to stakers
anyway after you buy SCAT, you can stake it and it will start earning 1% every 4 hours plus tax income starting 3-25 at 8pm gmt
so i guess the main point of difference between us and snowdog lies in the protections we have put in place
but also the team's general integrity level
Running Beast | TGH
How will it be distributed? Like in what percentage?
If I stake more will I get more?
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/)
the selling tax redistribution is actually distributed the same way as the regular rebase APY
The taxed SCAT goes into an address along with the newly minted reward SCAT for that epoch
and then at the end of the epoch, it comes time to redistribute that SCAT according to the rebase formula
so everything that's in there, the regular reward SCAT plus the taxed SCAT, gets proportionally distributed amongst all the staked credit
so if you have double the coins i have, you get double the income
Running Beast | TGH
[ GIF ] :D
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/), [3/22/2022 10:28 AM]
everybody's stack goes up by the same % each epoch
anyway the other difference between us and snowdog is one of general philosophy i suppose
the snowdog developers came up with snowdog as essentially a way of running a DAO, an ohm fork (olympus dao fork)
but we are not copypaste devs
we really bring something new to every project
so we actually took further steps to make it more secure
i can guarantee that the buybacks will be done on the proper LP, all i have to specify is what% of whats there to liquidate at which time
ready for next
Running Beast | TGH
Lets get some insight into your token,
How does it all get incorporated into the SnowCat DAO ecosystem? Please tell us about the private and public sale and how can investors participate in it?
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/)
Well first of all,in case you didn't see it before, here is our link dump
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/), [3/22/2022 10:31 AM]
Snowcat DAO (🐆,🐆)
🌐 Website: https://snowcat.dog
✈️ Twitter: https://twitter.com/PolyWantsAFarm
📢 Telegram: https://t.me/PolyWantsACracker_Farm
🎮 Discord: https://discord.gg/snowcat
🐆 Snowcat.dog is an exciting short-term financial game with unique incentives and rules! 🐆
🐶 Giveaway to wallets that staked in SnowdogDAO - 2 SCAT/wallet, limit 3000 wallets! 🐶
💰 Snowcat is a DAO that allows supply expansion for only 8 days 💰
💸 On day 9, 80% of the treasury besides SCAT-DAI LP will be used for buybacks 💸
⚒ Buybacks controlled by custom functions - admins have no treasury withdrawal ability ⚒
🎉 Buyback code battle tested by the team's first short-term DAO, MiniPanther DAO 🎉
💲$30,000 in tokens to give away this week! 💲
💵 New referral code! 3% Bonus! 💵
and in case you don't like to read, here are our videos
https://docs.snowcat.dog/basics/videos
The snowcat main token is SCAT
and the token tha tyou get when you stake is xSCAT
so when you stake our token, you get another receipt token on a 1:1 basis
Running Beast | TGH
Community members follow them to be eligible for the rewards.
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/)
the token that you actually get more of when you stake is xSCAT
so you can transfer staked credit between wallets by sending xSCAT
but if you want todo something like bridge xSCAT or stake it somewhere else, you would need to wrap it which we also have an interface for
so that's a fun fact kinda
each OHM fork(olympus dao fork) has 3 tokens
which work together to represent who has the credit for staking, and also who receives the rewards at rebase time
Our presale info is here: https://docs.snowcat.dog/basics/presale-info
Unfortunately it's sold out now, but there's a schedule there too!
we have the schedule of upcoming events: liquidity addition, swap from PSCAT to SCAT, and the beginning of rewards
Running Beast | TGH
👍
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/)
So the next opportunity to buy is 3-22 at 9pm GMT
that is when we will add the $720,000 in total liquidity on trader joe
so it will be pretty healthy in terms of price impact
if you want to, you will be able to get a decent bag size without changing the price that much
but the next real call to action is 3-23 at 8pm gmt
because that is when PSCAT can be swapped to SCAT
that is a very important concept that i should spend a minute on
because a lot of the supply wont be trading at first
so if people have reserve funds and want to buy, my recommendation is to wait until 3-23 8pm
Running Beast | TGH
That's different, can you please tell us a bit more about that.
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/)
that is probably going to be the best floor sweeping opportunity
when you participated in our presale, you didn't get SCAT, you got PSCAT
and again, PSCAT isn't going to be tradeable on its own, it has no liquidity
if you want to trade, you have to trade SCAT after liquidity is added
There is an unlock time when presalers get access to all SCAT
there is no further vesting, they get it all at once
so once again, my recommendation is to buy at that time, 8pm gmt on 3-23
Then, at 8pm gmt on3-25, the bonding begins
again bonding is the same thing as minting
doing bonding actually mints new tokens when you do it
the protocol then releases those tokens to you steadily over 3 days
https://snowcat.dog/#/mints
so in effect, bonding offers a chance to buy tokens at independent pricing
we say "discount rate" but the discount can be negative
really the bond prices fluctuate using their own gauges
time makes the mint price go down and minting makes it go up
and there is a control variable
so there will be 5days of bonding
and then 3 days to just claim
then 1 day o fbuybacks
its like a whole project wrapped up into a vacation
then what happens? do SCAT tokens become worthless after that?
well. no
SCAT will then be a meme token
Running Beast | TGH
Why??
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/)
and SCAT will last forever in that state
some aspects of the protocol facilitate the transition
as soon as all supply expansion stops, we cant have regular rewards
but we can still have staking tax redistribution rewards
so we will still have staking
the DAO will still have tokens as well
which it may be able to trade for benefits
and in general people like meme tokens
we have seen with our experience in MiniPanther that a higher than expected number of people want to keep the tokens
we gave MiniPanther MP holders a chance to swap their tokens for some SCAT
so we give like a passageway between layers
but a shockingly high number of people instead chose to keep MP tokens
and actually right now MP is sitting at about presale price if you factor in the staking index
Running Beast | TGH
😉
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/)
like it may be$4.50 now but that's $10 when you adjust for staking
so why do people like meme tokens?
well, you tell me
LOL
I cant tell you why people like meme tokens
I can just tell you that a higher than expected number of people seem to choose having them
Running Beast | TGH
Because they are for, with and by the community
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/)
right! so the teami s very closely connected to the community
Running Beast | TGH
No middle man
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/)
I spend hours a day every day keeping in touch with the community
and I'm also the contract admin
I am also the guy pressing the buttons during the buybacks haha
Running Beast | TGH
😀
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/)
So if there is something the community needs to help the meme token aspect, we are always willing to facilitate
like if the community needs administration, or additional technical things set up, we are very capable and willing to do it
like with minipanther we have outside partnered staking with dark knight
and so we can maybe try to do things like trade our DAO scat tokens for outside pools
we are also gonna release Snowcat NFTs that we charge only SCAT tokens for to reduce the supply
so the team is doing a lot of things to help out the meme status
we will have community NFT avatars almost on day 1
so we are actually excited about working with the community to do meme token things
and so one other thing i want to say is
one of the reasons that these short term daos, minipanther and snowcat, are exciting
is because you get to choose your own adventure
like if you think the token is pricey 5 days before buybacks, you can just sell
but some people prefer the excitement of riding out the buybacks
and some people just want the meme tokens
there is no wrong answer really
with minipanther, you could hold all the way until meme token and actually come out with a profit
you could make dark knight staking money plus now sell the tokens for what you paid in presale
so at least minipanther was a pretty good experience in terms of whichever strategy you took as long as you didnt buy the pico top
even now you could sell minipanther presale tokens for full presale price and then keep your staking income on the side
so we feel that this short term dao idea really does have legs and community interest
when we took a vote on whether to have a second short term dao, we got 250 yes votes in less than24 hours
and our whitelist interest was just out of control
hundreds of requests
and we are the only ones besides snowdog who have done this
I'm really not sure why
but it seems that the bad experience of snowdog left everyone scared to touch the concept again
except for us because we knew we could fix up the security
Running Beast | TGH
And lastly, please tell the community about your plans ahead.
which is the next big thing coming up, you just did an airdrop campaign.
Please tell us about it and the Roadmap ahead.
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/)
well, those who bought minipanther NFTs know that we are working on FarmerLand
[Forwarded from Snowcat DAO - Announcements]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKsKDJ0y98I
🧑🌾 Announcing FarmerLand 🧑🌾
🚜 A Play-to-Earn NFT game on the ETHblockchain
🐮 Collect Farmer, Land, and Tool NFTs to farmWHEAT tokens!
🌻 Pair NFTs and gain levels to maximize yield!
🌾 NFTs cost less ETH and more WHEAT as thegame progresses!
💰 One complimentary game NFT per MiniPantherNFT owned at the time of the upcoming claim! Get them before they sell out!
⏰ FarmerLand is coming soon!
🎮 Discord: https://discord.gg/raxn6h9vy5
🦤 Telegram:https://t.me/PolyWantsACracker_Farm
So we are awarding our NFT holders with new game piece NFTs in farmerland
and that's going to be a major project
but we are also working on more
we also still have minotaur money on cronos
that's our long term dao and it will remain our only long term dao
so we have more projects coming out as seed projects from that
we are working on some innovations to the tomb fork model which i think can fix the whole thing
we are working possibly on a solidly fork with improvements
Running Beast | TGH
That's great, it will be beneficial for the investors.
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/)
and we have another top secret project that is going to make you shit your pants
which is an NFT project
but ill discuss that when the info is released
Running Beast | TGH
🤯
Cool
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/)
That's true we just did an airdrop to the snowdog DAO stakers
https://snowcat.dog/#/snowdog
if you have a wallet that staked in snowdog DAO, you can claim 2 SCAT free there
Running Beast | TGH
🤑
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/)
and of course the next thing for us is Snowcat
we are now focused very strongly on that
but yes we have all those other projects coming out too and I'm really excited for those. especially the shit-your-pants project
but id recommend staying tuned to snowcat
because it really is exciting
the buyback plan really sustains the plot
we did 14 days of minipanther, and it was great for narrative but we decided to shorten it even more
so now it should be a very concentrated narrative
we cant wait to see how the unique changes for snowcat (antibot, referral code, shorter time, more liquidity) play out
Running Beast | TGH
Thanks, that's all for round 1 today.
Now we move on to the live AMA questions
Are you ready?
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/)
Snowcat DAO (🐆,🐆)
🌐 Website: https://snowcat.dog
✈️ Twitter: https://twitter.com/PolyWantsAFarm
📢 Telegram: https://t.me/PolyWantsACracker_Farm
🎮 Discord: https://discord.gg/snowcat
🐆 Snowcat.dog is an exciting short-term financial game with unique incentives and rules! 🐆
🐶 Giveaway to wallets that staked in SnowdogDAO - 2 SCAT/wallet, limit 3000 wallets! 🐶
💰 Snowcat is a DAO that allows supply expansion for only 8 days 💰
💸 On day 9, 80% of the treasury besides SCAT-DAI LP will be used for buybacks 💸
⚒ Buybacks controlled by custom functions - admins have no treasury withdrawal ability ⚒
🎉 Buyback code battle tested by the team's first short-term DAO, MiniPanther DAO 🎉
💲$30,000 in tokens to give away this week! 💲
💵 New referral code! 3% Bonus! 💵
thanks!
yes ready
Running Beast | TGH
Community members join the channel
Let's go
Sipaling ngentot
Hi @PolyWantsACrackerFarm
I see a lot of interest in the subject of fees but very little is said about the rights of artists over their content, can you explain to us what actions on your platform seek to promote "copyright" issue protection? How do you plan to avoid plagiarism, copying and falsification of content that could be monetized? Do you do some kind of KYC to the artists involved?
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/)
Hey, this is kind of off topic but I just want to say, we grant commercial rights to those who buy our NFTs
Adit Yoo°
Community support is one of the biggest aspects of the project's success. Most projects have programs that interact with their users. Do you have any special plans to engage and expand the community and improve the user experience??
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/)
So actually we recently upgraded our community engagement through contests
we are super engaged with the community always
but we just improved our contests a lot
so that helped get more people involved on the grassroots level
we just announced even more contests too
we are having 3kdai in contest giveaways this week
last week we gave away a ton
so please join up if you like contests
we have really fun ones like meme contests
KIYOMASA || KIYOWO
How do you plan to onboard the initial liquidity needed for your pools and what benefits if user want to be liquidator or provide liquidity?
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/)
So we are lucky about this
this question about liquidity is my favorite
I think this one actually wins the prize
because we have360,000 DAI we raised from the public that we are putting in as liquidity
we raised 600k DAI in the presale total and we are providing two halves of the liquidity worth$360k each
so $720,000 in total liquidity
and that is completely crowd sourced from our presale funds
also, your other question is great too
what incentivization is there for people to provide liquidity?
well, in many setups they have farms
so that LP provides a token directly
but in DAOs, we have protocol owned liquidity
so in snowcat, you would form liquidity on our website's helper and then use it to mint new scat tokens
that actually moves the LP tokens to the treasury
so this protocol owned liquidity system makes it so that customers cant pull liquidity lol
it makes our liquidity permanent
LP isn't liquidated when we buy back
so that also helps the meme token status the liquidity is permanent
so the meme token will really be tradeable forever
thanks for the question
DEZPOV
Almost 80%investors have just focused on price of token in short term instead of understanding the real value of the project. Can you tell us on motivations and benefits for investors to hold your token in long term?
@PolyWantsACrackerFarm
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/)
I agree that short term focus is prevalent amongst investors
and snowcat is one of the only projects that admits, yeah, we are short term focused!
we advertise ourselves as a short term financial game
so we embrace that aspect of investor psychology
but once again we also facilitate the long game by becoming a meme token when the buybacks are done
and with minipanther, we gave a swap to SCAT tokens
so those who held all the way through got a very generous compensation plan at the end
so we help people to move on to the next project
we actually always do that
it's like our tradition
we often leave open the possibility of moving our tokens over to the next project
and our team has been doing this long term so that's a long term plan
we started this last July
and we are now 7projects in
so if you stick with our organization long term, we promise lots of opportunities
Raden | TKSR
Do you think thatDecentralized Finance (DeFi) will disrupt the existing financial systems? What is the unification approach towards the DeFi sector?
@PolyWantsACrackerFarm
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/)
Actually no lol
so in my opinion tradfi is all about leveraged borrowing
but in defi, borrowing is overcollateralized unless its flash borrowing
so basically tradfi is like taking out a giant flash loan to buy the world
but it's long term
LMAO
but I don't think defi can replace tradfi
because defi wouldn't let you do what tradfi does
it's too broken
KIYOMASA || KIYOWO
Many Project talks only about their Strengths, Can You talk about the weak point that You project is Currently Dealing With?
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/)
yeah sure
there is a weak point in terms of administrative handiwork required
the way the bond prices fluctuate often requires me to be there turning knobs
like if one person shows up and bonds, it can change the bond price too far from the spot price
the formula that determines the actual mint prices is a bit primitive
and it is not anchored to the spot price
so I have to change it lol
I am pretty good at changing those prices
but it does require manual labor and I sometimes sleep
Running Beast | TGH
@PolyWantsACrackerFarmplease select the best question
Kurt Cobain (https://snowcat.dog/)
For the best question, let’s go with the person who asked about how customers provide liquidity
anyway thanks again so much
I really appreciate the gem hunters and sorry if I was a bit slow at first
I took a nap right before this lol
but we are really incredibly excited about snowcat